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Case Modding & Cooling / Re: Watercooling Radeon 9700
« on: March 07, 2003, 01:39:34 AM »
I winged it.  I decided to try, and to my surprise, the DangerDen GF3 block I had fit perfectly.  I had to scrape some of the TIM from the bottom of the HSF to fill the spots on the RV300 core that were a little lean, but it works, and it works well.


Case Modding & Cooling / Watercooling Radeon 9700
« on: February 17, 2003, 02:23:48 PM »
Anyone had any experience watercooling a Radeon 9700?  I know that the actual processor core sits lower than the "shim" around the edge of the chip.  Has anyone removed the shim, or shimmed up the core to mount a waterblock?

Where could I snag a R300 Waterblock?

Any/all help would be appreciated.

Case Modding & Cooling / Re: temps ??
« on: March 07, 2003, 01:43:10 AM »
Well I've got a new processor, and a different graphics card, and my temps have changed.

I'm now running an Thoroughbred 1700+, and an ATi 9700 Pro.  Both are watercooled, and now I see 30°C idle, and 37°C Full load.  Before I watercooled my 9700, I was seeing temps a bit lower than that, but that card throws a lot of heat.

Case Modding & Cooling / Re: temps ??
« on: January 24, 2003, 03:11:33 PM »
At 1.4GHz on my XP1600+ I am sitting @ 27°C water cooled and idle.  At full load I typically see 33°C.

Overclocked to 1.8GHz I see 33°C idle, and 38° full load.

Keep in mind that I am cooling a GeForce 4Ti 4200 @ 315/590 as well.

Case Modding & Cooling / Re: Watercooling?
« on: March 14, 2003, 04:48:00 AM »
My watercooling setup is all sealed so I don't empty it at all.  Being that I don't have any glycol or anything in it, I must make sure it doesn't freeze.

I believe the best way for it to flow is from the resevoir -> radiator -> Waterblock.  That way the water is at it's coolest when it comes in contact with the hottest component.

As far as temps go, in a watercooling setup, once the temp reaches it's apex, it doesn't generally go much higher, overclocked or not. . . at least on my setup.  Overclocking and overvolting, only add another couple degrees.

Just a few thoughts.

Case Modding & Cooling / Re: Watercooling?
« on: March 14, 2003, 01:47:28 AM »
Do you have any intake fans in your case?  Even though you're watercooled you should still try to balance the airflow.  If you have a 60cfm fan on your rad, try to have a couple of 25-30cfm fans blowing cool air into your case.

Also, try to put the rad and fan, (also acting as exhaust), as close to the top of the case as possible.  I honestly prefer cutting a whole in the top of the case, and mounting the fan/rad on the top.

I think though, the cheaper and easier alternative is to try to balance your intake vs. exhaust airflow.

Case Modding & Cooling / Re: Watercooling?
« on: March 06, 2003, 02:34:28 AM »
If price is no object the Swiftech kit may not be too bad.

Here are some review links:

Link 1
Link 2
Link 3

Also, not a bad kit, at less than half the price is the Ahanix Iceberg Watercooling Kit, also at BigfootComputers here

It's not as widely reviewed, but here are some links:
Link 1
Link 2
The second review makes the Iceberg kit look horrible, until you see this page.  It helps when you have airflow!!

For reference, my pieced together watercooling kit keeps my Athlon T-Bred A 1700+ @ 30C idle, and 34C full load running at stock speeds.  When I've craked my chip up to 2.2GHz, and upped the voltage to 1.725, I still sit at 33C idle, and 37C full load.

I'm using a BlackIce Prime Rad, DangerDen Maze II, and a Eheim 1048 (I believe) pump.  If you take the time and effort to build you own watercooling kit, you won't be sorry IMHO.

Case Modding & Cooling / Re: Watercooling?
« on: March 05, 2003, 05:53:55 AM »
First of all, welcome to the Forum!!

Second, the most important part of a watercooling system, IMHO is the pump.  Make sure you get a pump that is quiet, will last a long time, and has some decent flow.  Honestly 150+ GPH is adequate.

BTW, are you going to be cooling an Athlon or a Pentium System?

Case Modding & Cooling / Re: Cutting a blowhole
« on: April 22, 2003, 01:01:44 AM »
I  use a hole-saw to cut 80mm and 120mm holes.  What I used to do before I could afford a good bi-metal saw, was to mark out the hole with the fan grille, then use a dremel with a "reinforce cutting disk." I would slowly and carefully cut inside the line, then use a grinding stone or a file to finish out the hole and make it round.

I had very little success with a jigsaw, as it is quite a tight turn, and the tin is thin.  (It actually caught and bent the top of my case).  If you've got access to a dremel and a cutting disk, you can do just about anything.  I cut the D-man's logo on this case with just a dremel.

Hope this helps!  If you have any more questions, please LMK!

Case Modding & Cooling / Re: New Watercooling Kit By Corsair
« on: May 19, 2003, 01:19:55 AM »
It looks like a pretty schweet kit for sure.  My only beef is that it's external.  Even though you loose some case space, I like an all-in-one solution.

That being said, an external unit has a lot more market potential, most people don't have a big enough case to put everything inside, and don't really want to hack up their case.

Case Modding & Cooling / Re: What kind of paint to use?
« on: May 21, 2003, 05:58:56 PM »
Are you painting plastic or metal?  Plastic can be a real pain to paint, as some paints blister horribly, and others will never dry (the "melt" the plastic).  Krylon has recently introduced a paint specifically for painting plastics - I believe it's called Fusion.

If you can't use the Krylon paint, make sure you prime it first.

Honestly, my best luck with paint is the cheap "10 minute" dry paint at Walmart.  It dries quick and has quite a nice gloss.  

News / Re: So much for the old forums........
« on: January 16, 2003, 11:05:46 AM »
Not everything is working 100% here yet.  It's getting close. . .

News / Ben's Custom Cases New Format
« on: January 25, 2003, 01:52:43 AM »
trLast night, I launched a new format for BensCustomCases!  Unfortunately, some of the links/bookmarks that were used before may no longer work.

Please Email me if you notice broken links or problems with the new site.


News / Re: More on UT2K3Bench
« on: February 03, 2003, 06:30:31 AM »
UTBench2K3 is now up to version 1.34.  The new version is now compatible with version 2186 of UT2003.  It also fixes a minor memory leak.

Get the latest version here.

Enjoy!  Remember, if you need support for this program, post your questions over here!

You can also e-mail Nicao by clicking this link.

News / More on UT2K3Bench
« on: January 29, 2003, 01:11:15 PM »
Nicao has released version 1.33 of UT2K3Bench.  It has some minor CSV managment bugfixes.  If you are a fan of UT2003, an overclocker, tweaker, or just enjoy a good benchmark, head on over to the UT2K3Bench page to read more and download the latest version.

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