Topic: Vista & User Access Control

[LobbDogg]

I'm starting to get sick and tired of all those people who are complaining about Vista and its User Access Control. If you don't like it, then turn it off and it won't bug you anymore. But the reason Microsoft implemented it, is because people don't read and don't pay attention to what they click on and so they needed some way to try and give people a second chance to stop something from installing.

All I'm saying is, if you don't like the user access control, then turn it off and stop complaining.

[Luvlyan]

I agree. Some people are just too lazy to do the research and to find that you can actually disable it. But hey, people like that give jobs to tech support I guess...

[MegaHz]

Without user access control, Vista is just a buggy, shiny Windows XP with poor driver support that has an OS X like search built in.

I'm leaving Vista on a 50 GB partition for Direct X 10 games, but I've found it completely unusable for my day to day business. Photoshop CS3, iTunes, and Firefox still crash multiple times per day on Vista for me.

I'll probably be looking at a Mac Pro in the next 6 months or so, and making the switch final and permanent.

[VE6JHC]

I have to agree with you.....Microsoft released Vista too soon. Hopefully the service pack will fix things for the herd.

[Luvlyan]

I have to agree with you.....Microsoft released Vista too soon. Hopefully the service pack will fix things for the herd.

Seems like it will. I read that there were some noticeable performance tweaks, but it's still Vista all over again. I'd switch to Vista when SP2 comes out, sort of like what I did with XP. 

[Zeus]

I've been using Vista on AMD and Intel machines here at the lab, and honestly it's been pretty solid for me.  I've never had any crashing that I can attribute to Vista (high overclocks, yes) and we have it running multiple applications and games 24/7.  In fact, I do all my gaming on a Vista machine (Q6600, 8800GTX), as my main production machine is just took weak anymore (Athlon X2 4200+, HD 2600 Pro).  I did have an issue with TF2, but when I actually installed drivers for my Audigy X-Fi, it went away.

I may get flamed, but I appreciate UAC, and I believe (and hope) Vista is here to stay.  While I realize it's slower than XP, we have to keep in mind that Windows 2000 and XP were slower than Windows 98.  Eventually the mindset of the consumer changes and they get faster hardware and forget about the performance hit of a new OS.

[VE6JHC]

I see a lot of foolish things in Vista.....Why do you have to give UAC blessing to change your screen res.....not really a security issue! I am running Vista in a dual boot setup with Fedora 9 on one of my laptops....runs well with no lockups. My issue is the lack of driver support for many of my devices as well as some software that is not compatible and costs me money to update (not really Microsoft's problem but it will slow the adaption rate of upgraders). The cost of Vista is also a sore spot for me....I have Vista Ultimate and they promised special updates for Ultimate owners and todate we have just gotten one lame one.

[LobbDogg]

I actually like Vista, it has yet to give me any reason not to like it. But thats a whole other thread that I won't get into. I don't want this to turn into a MAC vs Windows thread.

I have to disagree though that Vista was released too early, it runs rock solid for me on 3 different machines I use daily, developers had plenty of time to release updated software/drivers, but some chose not to, and still choose not to. I would blame developers for that, not Microsoft.

Either way, I'm glad MS introduced UAC, and wish people would actually research before complaining about a feature that can be easily disabled.

[MegaHz]

I would rather have seen UAC implemented more like it was on Ubuntu or OS X. Whenever something needs system level access, in windows case, access to run as administrator or system, or access to certain areas of the registry, then it asks you for your account (or the admin) password.

People now click ok out of annoyance, not even thinking about what they are clicking ok to. I was at a customers house today (a Shaw service call to change her screen resolution I might add) and she had UAC pop up. She didn't even think, she just clicked. I asked her what she just clicked OK to, and she said "its just the vista being annoying, the salesman at futureshop told me to just click ok whenever it popped up".

I think UAC is a great step forward, however it was implemented extremely poorly, it is so common that it lost all its meaning to most users.

As for Vista being released to soon, I absolutely think it was. if it wasn't then were is my WinFS that was included in Longhorn not 18 months before release? There is nothing in Vista aside from Aero that couldn't have been implemented in an optional "enhanced security" service pack for XP.

BTW Lobb, I would never egg on a Windows vs Mac thread... I don't know what your talking about 


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